User talk:Atrahasis

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- Mailer Diablo 20:42, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

Race, intelligence and educational reform[edit]

Hello, I am an educational reformer who has chosen anonymity for the purposes of on-line collaboration at Wikipedia. Not so much for my own sake, but for that of colleagues who might be embarassed or even lose funding or employment.

Do you know anything about the Pygmalion effect or Hawthorne effect in regards to early childhood or elementary education? I've read isolated reports of significant IQ gains correlated with the attitude or expectation of the tester or teacher.

Arthur Jensen himself - considered the arch-racist by some advocates - reports IQ score gains of 8 or 9 points simply by playing kindly with the children to set them at ease and there was that study nearly 4 decades ago (only one study?!) that told teachers a randomly selected group was brighter; and then the kids showed astonishing increases in academic achievement.

Can you help me dig up research results which have a bearing on this?

Atra's reply[edit]

Hello, glad to meet a fellow educator!

The Pygmalion effect to me is basically the positive effect you get on any child when he has a great teacher who isn't mean and who cares that the children really learn to distinguish and sort out the confusing bits...to do that the teacher has to give them attention.

Consider the nature of attention, or even love...it is basically human mental energy that is transferred to another person to shape or mold the recipient's mental and spiritual reservoir. Giving lots of it makes this reservoir larger and shapes it. If it is not fed, it remains small and may even dry up. Energy transfer is a basic feature of the physical world and human society, and I have no doubt that it plays out in shaping IQ's as well. In fact, any and everything that you can possibly think of can probably be boiled down to some kind of energy transfer if you dissect it minutely enough.

You can research the effects of classical music on growing agricultural products, or the effects of talking to plants. I believe such things are relevant to human growth as well. --Atrahasis 15:50, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot to sign my comment above. I call myself Elabro 16:13, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Secrecy[edit]

You said on a talk page:

But the "veil of secrecy" of things Asian will often confuse people into thinking something is OR or "new knowledge", because it may really bother them that they just can't get an English source or even a written source for X item. If Wikipedia continues to introduce Asia-centric articles as Asia becomes more prominient in world affairs, we'll see more and more instances of Wikipedia in some cases being the first or among the primary sources for a given item, because the veil is being lifted here even where English sources may not readily exist...but we shouldn't let that bother us. --Atrahasis 11:22, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Could you expand? I'm very curious. What is doing the veiling? What is being veiled? Could I please have:

  1. some hand waving generalities so I have a clue to what you are talking about and what you are NOT talking about (social privacy, military security, asian v. western insecurity, etc.)
  2. a few pointed examples I can pin down for examination via Googling

Thanks, WAS 4.250 13:40, 13 January 2006 (UTC)


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