Talk:Anthony Crosland

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I don't know where the information that Crosland died of a massive heart attack comes from, no reference given. However I have corrected it and used a source reference. paulburgin 4/6/2005

I don't think he's 'Anthony Crossland' the organ scholar either Linuxlad (talk) 22:23, 5 September 2009 (UTC)


FORMER Chancellor Lord Healey has fond memories of Susan Crosland, widow of his Cabinet colleague Anthony Crosland, who died at the weekend at the age of 84. “I’m so sorry,” says Denis Healey from his house in Sussex. “She was such a lovely girl, so much nicer than Tony’s first wife, who was a pain in the arse. “Tony was a bit AC/DC, you know. Susan Barnes, as she was known, used to pander to his tastes a little by wearing mannish clothes. I remember a walking holiday with Tony in the Black Forest in Germany in the 1940s. We were with Hugh Dalton, who was his boyfriend in a way. “Tony and I had to share a bed and, when I put the light out, he said ‘I’m feeling rather randy, are you?’ “I said ‘No, I’m not. Bugger off.’ So he got into bed with Dalton instead.” 1 March 2011 [1]

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Master's Degree[edit]

I've taken the liberty of removing a claim that he took "his Masters" before the war. Before the war he studied Mods, the first half of the Oxford Classics degree. After the war he returned to finish his degree, this time in PPE (it is possible he was awarded a truncated "war degree" as some were in those days, after a year or two of study, and that his PPE was some subsequent diploma, but I don't think that was the case). He would not have been eligible for his MA (which at Oxbridge is basically an automatic upgrade) until he had a) got his BA and b) six years (iirc) after matriculating and starting his BA, which would have been in the early 1940s at the very earliest. Of course if somebody wants to check a biography and put in some accurate content, feel free.Paulturtle (talk) 05:05, 19 July 2017 (UTC) Just checked the recent biog of Roy Jenkins by John Campbell, which says that he did three years of study before the war. Oxford classics is a four year course, so presumably he did Mods and then a year of Greats. It does not say he was awarded a BA at that stage. Normally it is rare and difficult to change course at Oxford (whereas as Cambridge it is far from uncommon to do different subjects for Part I and Part II). However, PPE was known as "Modern Greats" in those days, and just as in (classical) Greats one can study a lot of history and philosophy if one chooses those papers, so in PPE one can offer papers in (modern political) history and in philosophy if one wishes to specialise in that way, so maybe the change of subject wasn't as dramatic as at might first appear.Paulturtle (talk) 12:20, 19 July 2017 (UTC)